Gandhi Comment on Babasheb B.R.Ambedkar.

இப்போதாவது விழித்துக்கொள்வோம்!

டாக்டர் அம்பேத்கரின் நிலைமையில் நான் இருந்திருந்தால், அடக்கவே முடியாத கோபம் கொண்டவனாகத்தான் இருந்திருப்பேன். அவர் இடத்தில் நான் இருந்திருந்தால் அஹிம்சை மீது நம்பிக்கை உள்ளவனாக இருந்திருக்க மாட்டேன்.

டாக்டர் அம்பேத்கர் என்ன செய்தாலும் அதை நாம் பணிவுடன் ஏற்றுக்கொள்ள வேண்டும். அவர் நம்மைச் செருப்பால் அடித்தாலும் நாம் அதை ஏற்றுக்கொள்ள வேண்டும்… அவரும் அவரது மக்களும் இந்து மதத்தின் மீது நம்பிக்கை இழந்து வேறு மதத்துக்கு மாறினாலும் அதை நமது பிராயச்சித்தம் என்றே நாம் கருத வேண்டும். நமக்கு இத்தகைய தண்டனை வேண்டியதுதான். இப்போதாவது நாம் விழித்துக்கொண்டு, நமது பாவங்களிலிருந்து நம்மைச் சுத்திகரித்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டும்.

- காந்தி

Source: The Hindu -Tamil edition dt 14-4-15

gandhi- is not just a myth but made up fake saint story- Arunthathi Roy rips apart and exposes gandhi's bigotry

gandhi is a bigot, a casteist and an agent of brit and corporation of the british India.

Source: upliftthem.blogspot.in

Q&A - `Gandhi was obsessed with sex ­while preaching celibacy to others'
A controversy has erupted in Britain over the proposed second statue of Gandhiji in London, this one in Parliament Square. Kusoom Vadgama, the doughty 82-year-old historian and former `Gandhi worshipper', tells Bachi Karkaria why she is leading the fight brigade against the statue.

You have reportedly opposed the statue because of Gandhi's `debasement of women' by his experiments with sexual selfcontrol.

Men in position of power take advantage of their status. They have no qualms about abusing minors or women. All his life Gandhi was obsessed with sex ­while preaching celibacy to others. No one challenged him. He was the nation's `untouchable' hero, his iconic status eclipsed all his wrong doings. The protest against yet another statue of his in London, just two miles from the one in Tavistock Square, is a perfect opportunity to speak the truth about this other people's Mahatma.

What angers you most about this known truth?
Gandhi never made a secret of sleeping naked with his greatgrand daughter and the wife of his great-grand son. It may have been his way of testing his control over his sexual drive, but these women were used as guinea pigs. If he had used other adult women, it would have been nothing more than interesting gossip. But Gandhi chose a teenage blood relation and a great-grand-daughter-in-law for his sexual whims. I have no fear or hesitation in telling the truth about him. Ironically , it was he who instilled in me the mantra of `satyameva jayate'.

With his place in global iconography, will your voice be heeded? Gandhi's darker side was ignored but never forgotten. Now, the brutal gang rape of Nirbhaya, and horrendous sexual crimes everywhere have brought into deep focus the helplessness of women; opened wounds of the indignity of being used. Yes, at a different level, but just as humiliatingly . The world has changed. For women, personal freedom and self respect come before the freedom of the country and national leaders, however important or influential.

But Gandhiji did give a great deal of space to women in the freedom struggle. For them it was a personal liberation.

Yes Gandhi mobilised the women of India. One of the reasons for his success was that his political rallies were called prayer meetings. Women attended in thousands not only to listen to him but also to have the `darshan' of the saintly man.

Earlier, you too `worshipped Gandhi'.

Kusoom Vadgama

He was my God inNairobi,Kenya, where both myparentsweredeeply involvedin India's free dom movement.

In school, i stud ied the gloryand great ness of the British Empire, but spent all my time outside in protest marches and dawn processions, ordering the British out of India. I even shouted `Jai Hind' to the English school teacher, and thought I'd be expelled.

Why have you pitched for a statue of Dadabhai Naoroji instead?
The Indian diaspora needs a role model for all the positive values of Indo-British relations. Dadabhai Naoroji, Britain's first Indian MP elected in1892, deserves to be in Parliament Square. He was a a great supporter of the suffragettes who campaigned for Home Rule for Ireland. He represented the culture and spirit of India in Britain as no other Indian did. He was much loved and respected by Jinnah and Gandhi.
He also happened to be the first Indian to represent the first Indian trading company in London in 1855 ­ and the first professor of Gujarati in London University .

Source: The Times of India dt 16-8-14

Bapu was casteist, says Arundathi





Author and Man Booker prize winner Arundhati Roy, who has consistently castigated Mahatma Gandhi for his `çasteist' tendencies, went a step further on Thursday , saying it was high time institutions named after the Father of the Nation be rechristened. She said it could begin with renaming universities, a not-so-subtle reference to Mahatma Gandhi University , one of Kerala's leading varsities. Roy made this observation while delivering the Mahatma Ayyankali address -in commemoration of the state's renowned dalit leader -at Kerala University here.Roy cited an 1936 essay by Gandhi, `The Ideal Bhangi', in which he advises manual scavengers to convert urine and night soil into manure, as proof of Gandhi's patronising attitude towards Harijans and how it helped reinforce caste hierarchies.
Refuting Roy , J M Rahim, coordinator for Centre for Gandhian Studies, drew attention to Gandhi's autobiogrphy `My Experiments with Truth' where he narrates how he once had a bitter fight with his wife Kasturba as he wanted her to clean an open latrine, refusing to allow a Bhangi to do it.
“When his wife protested he did the job himself,'' Rahim said.
Making a connection to BJP's `casteist' politics, Roy recalled that Narendra Modi too had not long ago said that Balmikhis (Bhanghis) had been doing scavenging work for centuries for the happiness of society and in the process they (Bhangis) were spiritually cleansed.
Rahim contended that Gandhi's actions often reflected the man better than his words. “To quote Gandhi out of context and say that he is castiest is not only superficial but also shows that Roy has not understood Gandhi's philosophy . In South Africa, for instance, a Tamil dalit family afflicted with leprosy stayed in his ashram much to the chagrin of the inmates,'' Rahim said.

In her lecture, Roy also claimed that while in South Africa Gandhi had branded black prisoners `kafirs' who were uncivilized, liars and had no moral scruples. Dr M S John, professor and director of School of Gandhian Thought and Development Studies at Mahatma Gandhi University said it was a mistake to view Gandhi as someone who emerged fully formed.
“The early Gandhi was not a radical personality . He evolved. The comment that he made about black prisoners is due to his own experience of threat of sodomy by inmates while he was in jail,'' he said.
“Gandhi knew the culture and roots of India in all its depth and it is unfortunate that a person like Arundhati Roy makes this statement for cheap publicity,'' said poet and activist Sugathakumari.
Source: The Times of India dt 18-7-14