Stop campus recruitments, PSUs told
Madras HC Orders Status Quo For 2 Weeks
The Madras high court has restrained public sector undertakings (PSUs) from holding campus recruitments and asked them to maintain status quo for two weeks.
The first bench comprising Chief Justice M Y Eqbal and Justice T S Sivagnanam issued the interim direction on a public interest writ petition filed by advocate M Palanimuthu, who said PSUs should not conduct such recruitments without any job notification and without following reservation rules.
When the matter first came up for hearing on December 23, 2011, the bench had issued notices to several PSUs named in the petition, the Centre and the state government, and asked them to file their replies in six weeks. On Tuesday, when it was taken up for further hearing, counsel for PSUs sought more time to file reply. Giving them more time, the judges said, “In the mean time, status quo with regard to campus selection shall be maintained by the respondents concerned.”
On December 23, the bench had said: “The moot question that calls for consideration is whether the procedure followed for campus interviews by the PSUs is justified and whether there are chances of good candidates being discriminated against and candidates who got registered in employment exchanges not getting a chance.”
Palanimuthu said that as per rules, recruitment for various posts in PSUs should be done either through employment exchanges or through public advertisements by inviting applications from eligible candidates throughout the country. Instead of following these rules, PSUs of late have started recruiting employees through campus placements, he said.
Besides violating job rules, these PSUs thereby unwittingly contribute to the demand for private educational institutions which organize such placement drives, Palanimuthu said. Selection process cannot be confined only to institutions organizing campus placements, he said.
Besides seeking a stay on campus recruitment drives by PSUs such as HAL, HPCL, NTPC, Isro and IOC, Palanimuthu wanted the court to cancel appointments already made through the process. He said his representation to the authorities did not evoke any response, leaving him with no choice except approaching the high court for remedy. He wanted all PSUs to be banned from participating in campus recruitments in institutions.
The interim order may not have much impact on this year’s placement season as the recruitment process has come to an end in most institutions. “PSUs like the navratnas have been hiring from campuses for their engineering divisions for a long time. This is especially true for companies like NTPC, BHEL, SAIL etc. More than 50% of their core division strength comes from campuses. In recent years, they have also started hiring from premier business schools,” said E Balaji, CEO of MaFoi Randstad.
Source: The Times of India dt 22.02.2012The first bench comprising Chief Justice M Y Eqbal and Justice T S Sivagnanam issued the interim direction on a public interest writ petition filed by advocate M Palanimuthu, who said PSUs should not conduct such recruitments without any job notification and without following reservation rules.
When the matter first came up for hearing on December 23, 2011, the bench had issued notices to several PSUs named in the petition, the Centre and the state government, and asked them to file their replies in six weeks. On Tuesday, when it was taken up for further hearing, counsel for PSUs sought more time to file reply. Giving them more time, the judges said, “In the mean time, status quo with regard to campus selection shall be maintained by the respondents concerned.”
On December 23, the bench had said: “The moot question that calls for consideration is whether the procedure followed for campus interviews by the PSUs is justified and whether there are chances of good candidates being discriminated against and candidates who got registered in employment exchanges not getting a chance.”
Palanimuthu said that as per rules, recruitment for various posts in PSUs should be done either through employment exchanges or through public advertisements by inviting applications from eligible candidates throughout the country. Instead of following these rules, PSUs of late have started recruiting employees through campus placements, he said.
Besides violating job rules, these PSUs thereby unwittingly contribute to the demand for private educational institutions which organize such placement drives, Palanimuthu said. Selection process cannot be confined only to institutions organizing campus placements, he said.
Besides seeking a stay on campus recruitment drives by PSUs such as HAL, HPCL, NTPC, Isro and IOC, Palanimuthu wanted the court to cancel appointments already made through the process. He said his representation to the authorities did not evoke any response, leaving him with no choice except approaching the high court for remedy. He wanted all PSUs to be banned from participating in campus recruitments in institutions.
The interim order may not have much impact on this year’s placement season as the recruitment process has come to an end in most institutions. “PSUs like the navratnas have been hiring from campuses for their engineering divisions for a long time. This is especially true for companies like NTPC, BHEL, SAIL etc. More than 50% of their core division strength comes from campuses. In recent years, they have also started hiring from premier business schools,” said E Balaji, CEO of MaFoi Randstad.
Already those who are studying in NITs and IITs are the very well proved candidates and they got admissions in such institutions of national importance through open....
ReplyDeleteIf this type of lawyers file the petition like this is having no meaning.....
If this pathetic lawyer is correct then what about AIEEE, IIT JAM, NITET and so many national entrance exams??????????
If you have any doubts about the campus placements then directly you fellows go through those placement procedure and then decide....
do you know the value of the period of student who spent far from family, love with the subject, hope about the future..... in the universities?????
If you have any doubts about the reservation criteria then check it too in campus placements.....
Recently it was heard that some dangerous politicians gave bribe to the judge.... then shall we ban on court because of this??????
Already plenty of Indian students going to foreign because of so many reasons.... please don't let this bludy issue also one of their reason.....
If there is any wrong things going on in on-campus interviews then please go through them seriously and let them recruit the bright candidates who can lighten our INDIA....
but don't spoil the future of the students who are on the edge to get job...
And please don't doubt the institutes of National importance such as IITs and NITs.... and the PSUs tooooooooo...
Hellow Mr. Lawyer.... there are so many issues on which you have to look after.... please don't play games with the future of India ....
those students who got admission in NITs and IITs are not the only talented people in INDIA. some students may not have resources to take coaching for entrance exams. so by having campus placements they can loose an oppurtinity to get those jobs...If an iit student is worthy to get a psu job even in open recruitment also he can get,then why dont he try to compete with the remaining students if he can achive anything............
DeleteI talked with lawyer Mr. Ramesh who is fighting on behalf of all psu's.we affected students are about to file petition in chennai high court and owr petition will have more impact if as many affected students can join us..so those want to join hands with us please contact on these no and mail id's immediately..7498342408 , 9318781325 , 9871985126 ,9810316386
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DeletePlease let this reservation stick into the education..... up to education.....
ReplyDeletePlease don't bring this issue of reservation even in at the time of getting a job.....
already with the proper reservations only the so many students are joining in the NITs and IITs.....
atleast my INDIA should have its talented guys in the PSUs ... whether they may be reserved or unreserved candidates.....
but only those who have talent.......
don't support such an activity while getting the job....
please think over it....
even though you are the supporters of reservation...... please think about the future of INDIA.....
let the reservation candidates enter in NITs and IITs but don't let this bludy issue come at the time of recruiting for a job.... especially the jobs like PSUs...
please respect the talent and the hard work of the youngsters in the IITs and NITs and please give respect to the NITs and IITs and to the PSUs tooooooooo.........
admission into NIT or IITs is not one final gateway to all future avenues. you have to write an entrance for higher studies be it MTect or MS and mere graduating from IIT cannot have right on vacancies in MTech or MS/vacancies in PSU. There are lot of bright students who could not make it to IIT or NIT for lack of coaching faclilites or economic problems, from other engg colleges, who should be given fair chance. More PSU are governed by Article 14 and 16 of constitution of India which cleary states competition should be fair and equal oppurtunity for all.
ReplyDeleteHey asshole! Are you saying that a student cannot get into IITs and NITs without coaching? There are many students, including me, who get through without coaching. A student studying in IITs and NITs are no better than other students who don't study in these INSTITUTES OF NATIONAL IMPORTANCE, is that what you mean? If you are not giving a thought about the topic, and are giving such Bullshit comments, just fuck off!
DeleteHaha...how can u say that there r "many" students? I totally agree that without coaching only persons with exceptional intelligence can clear the paper..and these persons r persons who have already cleared olympiads, and NTSE kinds of exams ...because these students are familiar with those extra things that are asked in jee which r not there in cbse books! I am studying in IIT kharagpur and I know that all my classmates took coaching to enter...plus in my application form I mentioned that I prepared on my own...plus nobody in my colony knows that I took coaching...I told them that I got through by self study...to become a hero!! ...What say you "Hero" ??? :P
DeleteAnd one more real life story.... my own sister...she is far far more intelligent than me...she cleared the science olympiad at regional level...but when it came to jee and aieee...she got 29000 rank in aieee and no rank in jee... she dropped a year...and in september she was diagnosed with cancer!!! She could not sit for iit....could hardly manage to sit for aieee...she got 91000 rank...thanks to the weakness caused by her treatment ...CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SUCH A TALENTED GIRL HAD NO OPTION BUT TO STUDY IN IP UNIVERSITY? Most of her friends cleared the jee...but my sister who was a strong contender is studying in a state university...So do I assume she does not deserve a placement as good as her batchmates may get? Mr.Ton the reality is that u r not even aquainted with the reality of talent outside IITs and NITs...so stop flying in the air and use the last words of ur post for urself!!!! :PPP
DeleteGREAT SCRIPT DUDE....but the true story is far from it... if u think eveyone gets into IITs because of coaching then answer this IF U DONOT GET INTO IIT (because of lack coaching ) THEN HOW DO U PLAN TO CLEAR GATE BECAUSE MY FRIEND COACHING IS AVAILABLE FOR THAT TOO(and is in fact more costly)?and u into kgp ?i seriously doubt that?
DeleteMANY STUDENT IN NIT SAYS THAT IF PSU AGAIN STARTS TAKING PLACEMENT IN THEIR COLLEGES, THEIR PLACEMENT ARE FIX AS THEIR PARENTS HAVE A GOOD CONTACT WITH THE HR OF THAT COMPANY. HENCE I THINK IT'S A GUD IDEA TO BAN PLACEMENT BY PSU IN COLLEGES
Deletei am a iit kgp 5th year student and i know what`s the situation we are facing now .if u want to know about the talent of an IITian then go through the GATE results where u will find many of the rank holders are IITians who just appeared in the exam for 5th year stipend.All of my batch mates got AIR in under 100 which was only one night study result.We dont have any problem to compete bt u should understand that some of the departments are psu oriented like mining ,naval architecture etc.And everybody wants campus placement after getting into IIT.
DeleteAll of my batch mates got AIR in under 100 which was only one night study result?
Deletecan u list of ur frnds who got rank less tha 100 frm iit kgp along with rollno please . we ll check also.nd ll apreciate them after cing those results since its a matter of one ni8 study only......
dnt treat gate is silly exam..
iitkanpur m.tech studdent
I don't think the issue raised by that concerned is only of reservation...it mainly talks of equal opportunities...and it stands general candidates as well.....
ReplyDeleteSuppose you are studying in X college and I am studying in Y college and we both belong to same category suppose.
Now some company like IOCL came to your College for campus recruitment not to mine for whatsoever reasons (maybe my Placement Officer didn't invite them) so here I lost the opprtunity to sit in their interviews but Had IOCL done the recruitment through open advertisement we all could have applied for it. This could b/w two also. If suppose tomorrow IOCL goes to IIT Kanpur for placements and didn't go to IIT Delhi then it's a lost opportunity for IIT Delhi students. So it's not fair that campus recruitments are done by PSUs.
PSUs are govt. undertaking companies and they should provide equal opportunities to all and not just lucky few.
u clearly have no idea about this. so stop ur nonsense . why would iocl go to iit k rejecting iit d. huh
DeleteAgreed Vishal, PSUs don't pick Colleges randomly or the lucky ones as such, they see which colleges have the essential infrastructure and various other parameters. If they don't go to a particular college, may be they have some field or the other improved about the college. Besides, they recruit 50% of vacancy from campus and another 50% off campus which, every AICTE approved colleges all over the country has equal opportunities with.
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ReplyDeleteDont u have any other things to do Mr advocate?
ReplyDeleteMyself bhaskar and working in a reputed PSU selecting through mass campus interview. This is completely a meaning less issue. First they should know the procedure of the campus interviews and then should talk. All the PSUs are brooming now, why? coz they selected some useless engineers? What about the students life, future who were already selected recently and got held up now? Please dont play politics with such a sensitive matter. Who those are really brilliant will get chance through the GATE or all india level exam procedure......please stop this........
ReplyDeleteIn india campus is the only process which is corruption free, In the off campus of different companies candidates can buy the job with a large amount of money. So you can get a job if you have money.
ReplyDeleteMr advocate you are saying that students don't get equal oppurtunity in on-campus but can you say that in off campuses all the students will get equal oppurtunity. I have seen many candidates get a job in psu's off campus with an amount of about 10-12 lakhs of money.
So plz mr advocate palani or watever, if you cant do anything constructive then plz dont try to harm anything like this, coz this is related to future of the indians. And if you want to do anything for india then 1st you should concentrate on corruption of ministers and other high officials,not the futures of indians.
Merit should be respected and it is respected in process of campus placement too.opportunities and fortune have their role in making destiny of everyones's life. A meritorious student may miss opportunity of getting placed in his dream PSU because the company didn't visited his college campus but that does not mean that he will be left unemployed.Merit doesn't rely on fortune it paves path.IITs and NITs do not attract recruiters but its the quality of students that attract.There are other ways too for getting into PSUs like GATE.If you doubt campus placement rationality then you doubt rationality of MNCs who prefer campus placements only.FB recruiters are dumb?Or are they not professionals or not intrested in picking talents.Please let PSUs also work professionally.They have greater responsibility to shoulder unlike you guys who aim at shortsighted and personal intrest.This is for the sake of the country.
ReplyDeleteI am an engineering student and i just want to say that dont pollute the educational environment of india. It is already in big trouble due to corrupted people like lawyers, politician etc, who does anything for a little bit of money....and mr palanimuthu i think you r the most corrupted lawyer in history of india..
ReplyDeletemr pallanimuthu and his supporters, have you appeared for an campus interview?? I can definitely say that you will not even clear the written test....i want to say that companies or psu recruiting from campuses are not fool, they took what they need...So please stop these blady topic nd get to your own work and let the companies and psu do their own....you blady fool do you even know wat really a campus interview is?
ReplyDeletei just wanna share some points.plz read them step by step.
ReplyDelete1)PSU visit to a institute.
2)STUDENT(who have cracked IIT,NIT and still on the top on their respective branches.)got selected in psu after clearing two three rounds.
3)Institute declares the company as a DREAM.so he is not eligible to sit in future companies visit.
4)At least 50 more companies visit to campus.
5) when student is waiting for his offer letter high court cancel his placement.
6)imagine the future of that student. plz reply if i am wrong
his dream collapsed.....and he has 2 cry since he born in INDIA
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ReplyDeleteI am an MBA pass out from a premier GOVT. B-school in Delhi. And I am also one of the sufferers. Its been more than 5 complete months since HPCL came to our campus in early February and recruited one candidate(me) after following rigorous procedures of recruitment. I always wanted to join a PSU due to family issues. Since then till yesterday I was always enquiring about the offer letter but the authorities kept on delayed it. Yesterday I got a shock mail from from them saying that my selection is dependent on the outcome of a writ petition in Madras high court!!
ReplyDeleteHow can a court or rather anyone LITERALLY play with aspirations of young people who had taken at least 10 LAC loan in order to fund their studies? Had I known this complexity earlier I could've sat for a better company which pays much better. (Our college has 100% placements). Or I could've applied for other top companies had they given this information earlier. All of my peers have joined good companies and started earning and I'm in the middle of all this.
What wrong did I or rather any of my fellow mates do? The job market is also dull and I can see my otherwise bright future dwindling.
My humble request to the honourable high court is NOT to cancel these offer letters. They should take into consideration the hard work these students undergo to get into these colleges, & the financial burden that it entails. Hoping for a better news...
Hey Hi..I am also one of the premier Govt. B-school of Mumbai and also got placed in HPCL in the month of Feb only and i also came to know about this only when i contacted the respective authorities.I want to get in touch with people who are suffering because of this writ petition in Chennai High court so that we can unite together and can fight to save our future after all its our career which we can't let spoil beacause of any petition..i am shareing my email id and contact Number here so please do contact me...Email ID:vaibhavbhagat12@jbims.edu.... Phone Number:7498342408
DeleteI am in complete agreement with the argument provided above, at least students who have been selected should be taken in.
ReplyDeleteNow, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM IN A GOVT/PUBLIC SECTOR COMPANY RECRUITING FROM GOVERNMENT COLLEGES?
1)Weren't government colleges formed with a motto of provide quality and affordable education to all sections of society?
2) Aren't all government norms being followed during admission?
3) If PSU's dont visit government colleges that what is the edge a govt college have over a private college?
Hey Hi..I am also from one of the premier Govt. B-school of Mumbai and also got placed in HPCL in the month of Feb only and i also came to know about this only when i contacted the respective authorities.I want to get in touch with people who are suffering because of this writ petition in Chennai High court so that we can unite together and can fight to save our future after all its our career which we can't let spoil beacause of any petition..i am shareing my email id and contact Number here so please do contact me...Email ID:vaibhavbhagat12@jbims.edu.... Phone Number:7498342408
ReplyDeleteWhatever the High is Court is doing is right. The mater should be favoring a larger number of candidates and not just few students who come fro B-schools and other premiere engineering colleges.
ReplyDeleteKuchh nahi BAS YE SAALA ADVOCATE EK FRUSTATED BANDA H JISKA LAUNDA DO SAAL KARNE KE BAAD BHI KISI IIT/NIT ME addmission nahi paaya .....to ye saala soch raha h ki jinke laaunde ho gaye hain psu me unki gaand maari jaaaye...n We the students of iit n nit ...will we get any advantage of studying in these colleges.....if not so then similar should be the case fr SCRA n many other examples can come up like this
ReplyDeletesahi baat...
Deletewhat is the final outcome of the case kindly post the judgement
ReplyDeleteI am now going to be in final year and i am in nit. For all these years i have waited for this moment after i got into NIT. And these companies follow proper reservation rules. What if they stop recruitment this year? My hopes will be ruined....
ReplyDeleteI believe it's not right to cancel recruitment of the students already selected for jobs. The campus recruitment, if to be banned should be banned from next year onwards. This year many students' lives will be spoiled. Otherwise, I believe, the decision to stop campus recruitment is good because I am studying in one of the very low level colleges and I don't get the opportunity to sit for campus placements in these PSUs. Only option have is to appear GATE and get selected for interviews. This is in a way bias towards elite colleges' students because they get to sit for interviews directly. If campus placements are banned then these PSUs will recruit through open advertisements where all indian students will get opportunity to sit for interviews. I am in support for banning of Campus Placements except for the fact that the already selected candidates of this year shouldn't be done injustice with....
ReplyDeleteSo you want no advantages to be given to the students of elite colleges??And for your kind info,PSUs also hold off campus recruitments.Give the test and the interviews and get into the PSU of your choice.Nobody is stopping you.
Deletewhy this all issue has risen over the surface from this much year so far
ReplyDeletejust coz some psycho judge who wants to attain the fame by coming into picture in media
if u cud answer jst simple question
why should a student spend sleepless night toiling their head to secure addmission in IIT and NIT if he can secure addmission in PSU's by studying in less renowned insti
Jst hav a thought
Can any one please provide the details of the case so that the present status can be checked ?>
ReplyDeletefinally na aa rahi hai.....we r in loss!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAny one can say whether in 2012 the PSU r coming or not.....
ReplyDeleteIn NITs will PSUs do campus recruitment in 2012
ReplyDeleteguys the next hearing will be on september 1 and before it all of us have to file a joint petition in chennai high court i talk with our lawyer mr . ramesh he recommaned me this and please this is my gentle request this is ma contact no-9318781325
ReplyDeletefrom which site u came to know that final hearing is on september 1st?
Deleteplzzz post the link if u have
I talked with lawyer Mr. Ramesh who is fighting on behalf of all psu's.we affected students are about to file petition in chennai high court and owr petition will have more impact if as many affected students can join us..so those want to join hands with us please contact on these no and mail id's immediately..7498342408 , 9318781325 , 9871985126 ,9810316386
Deletesab jaake madarchodo padhai karo. yaha gaand marake fayada nai hai.
ReplyDeleteMADARCHOD padai karne ke baad hi job mila hai ...padai karne ke baad main hi aise cllg main pahuche hain jahan job hoti hai...
Deletewhen is the final hearing??
ReplyDeletehey we 10 from sjce mysore got into bel through campus recruitment. yet to recieve order. please tell us what to do.
ReplyDeletedid you get your offer letter atleast?
DeleteHey!! we're 5 from NIE Mysore got into bel through campus,yet to recevie the doj.... please help us to fight against this...
ReplyDeleteSJCE guys(Lets join Vaibhav and group) to fight against this, so that we'll receive our joining dates asap...
Contact us on : 8123056991
Call soon guys..
hey please put up where we can get details of this case status.
ReplyDeleten madras high court website ,
Deletecase no: 29832
Petitioner and Petitioner's advocate : M.PALANIMUTHU
Respondent : The Secretary to Government
Guys !! attention ...the respondants for this case are
ReplyDeleteISRO,HAL,HPCL and IOC.. as far as the info that i have received all other psu's are giving joining dates for their selected candidates, and most of them have started workin (Some of the companies that have given the joining dates are like.,BP, power finance corp etc...) there are almost 200+ psu's through out india and only these 4 companies have be asked to maintian the status quo... so now worries guys... !! And the lawer who's working on behalf of the students and PSU'S is more confident that atlesat the verdict for 2011-12 batch students will be given...so cheers guys.. lets hope for the best....
bel is also there....
Deletebel(bharath electronics limited)-crl(central research laboratory),jalahalli,BANGLORE also there i hope
Deletewe got offer on 5th sep
bt they r saying it ll postponed upto end of court case.
please consider bel-crl also
When is the verdict for the 2011-2012 batch expected.
DeleteI ve got recruited in Bharat electronics ltd, chennai unit.
Final Judgement on sep 1st week..............
DeleteThank u for the info. May i know from where did u get the info sir, reg the final judgement
Deletei selected for BEL-CRL, They give us joining date on sep 5th , but suddenly they give shock to all of us by suspending the offers , dont know what to do if the case fails . so petitioner please dont play with our lifes, now we r on edge ,we dont have any other choice other than joining the company so please do consider our request.
Deletehello guys i am from IIITDM Jabalpur selected in BEL through Capmus Selection but did'nt get the offer letter till now ...
ReplyDeletewe talked to the HR of BEL Banglore they said u may have to wait for 2-3 months more till that time what we will do we all are worying....
So its ma humble request to all bel guys think some positive & needful action to do so that we can get our joing as soon as possible...
so what to do BEL Guys....
if any one have any idea what to do next kindly contact me on +918081645507
when was your interview contducted???
Deletehi,am another guy..from the same college and recruited in the same company.
Deleteour written and interviews were conducted on 22-23 may.
do u have any suggestion or idea....?
bel? r BEL_CRL?
Deletemention clearly.....
it's bharat electronics limited.....n we are recruited for RnD department,ghaziabad unit.
Deleteso its bel-crl in ghaziabad...
Deletewe frm iit kgp selected for bel-crl-bang...
can u tel me hr details (name nd phone no) please......
Deleteand y they mention 2-3 mnths . mean its random r at max delay...
iit kgp
hey guys...
DeleteBEL recruited us from IET Lucknow (2012) for GHAZIABAD UNIT and we are also told to wait untill final decision comes...
i dont unterstand when BEL is not in the list of companies and other are giving joining date why BEL is maintaining status quo....
heyy IET guys...did u recieve offer letters...if yes..when..?
Deletem frm IIIT J, we hvn't recieved yet.
iet lucknow guys can u post ur letter came from bel please urgent.....
DeleteBPCL is recruiting from other NITs, are they coming to NITK surathkal. I am a chemical engineering student final year sagar
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ReplyDeleteFinal judgement on Sep 1st week
ReplyDeleteFor case status: madras high court website ,
case no: 29832
Petitioner and Petitioner's advocate : M.PALANIMUTHU
Respondent : The Secretary to Government
Sir, From where did u get the info regarding the final judgement is on sep 1st week
Deletedid anyone filed PIL ??????
ReplyDeletehow come you know that the final judgement is on sept 1st week? I saw that HC site, it doesn't state anything like judgement reserved or soemthign
Deletehaving contacts with Adv Ramesh (Respondents advocate) , everythng depends on tat verdict only so pls pray for positive result
ReplyDeleteany idea on the exact date of hearing or advocate's number?
Deleteguys any idea abt the judgement ???
ReplyDeleteresult will b mostly in our favour. and hearing is on 1st september.
DeleteYes hopefully in our favour. If by any chance and bad judgement it goes against us, there its like all the campus recruitments made till now over the years also come under scrutiny. Thats bad. Hope the court doesnt play with our life anymore.
DeleteFinal judgement on sep 1 ???
Deletethat means psus will go for the campus recruitment this year also or only selected students after dec 11 will get the appointment? please clear it.
ReplyDeletehello uttam, 90% the verdict ll be positive for both ths yr batch as wel as for the future batches too....... so start preparing for placements.......
Deletehoe do you know about this?
DeleteBEL is nt a direct respondent but Ministry of defence is ..so PSU's lk BEL ,DRDO etc ..are also involved...hence we cud also file petition..
ReplyDeletedoes anybody know about the hearing date of this writ petition
ReplyDelete@ all who are affected from the madras high court stay order, let us make a group on facebook so that we can communicate effectively.
ReplyDeletemore people will join us.
what should be the group name?
may be...."fight4right club" r "rite2fight"..
DeleteCOURT FUCKS CAMPUS
Deletewelcome dalla,nyc 1.....name 'rite2fight' is suggested by me(2008018)...
Delete"PSU RECRUITS 2012" will be a better one
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ReplyDeleteHello every one, if the case hearing in sep 1st week is postponed, then the next hearing date may be in the month of november..
ReplyDeleteas i came to know from a source all companies decided to finalize case in September only...
Deleter u sure..? how come u know this...?
ReplyDeletehello guyz, no postponement again, judgement s on sep 1st week, no more hearings, bcoz most of the PSUs started issuing appoinment orders asking to join aftr sep 15th, as they all knew abt d positive verdict, even the respondents ve mentioned ths n d final hearing (Aug 1) so relax guyz.........
ReplyDeleteWhich company has issued appointment orders ?? and how do u know the hearing is on sep 1st week , i heard there is 50-50 chances to have a hearing..
DeleteIOCL,most PSU banks, i spoke wit Respondents advocate, totally 7 hearings wer thr till date and final hearng got over on Aug 1st itself, HC adjourned d judgement to sep 1st week (No More Hearings)
DeleteThank u for ur information KAFEEL, but few of my friends ,who r filing the case spoke with advocate and advocate is saying that right from august hearing is postponing due to some reason. but u r saying in a quiet opposite ,r u sure about ur information ..
Deletedid you get any information about the probable judgement....and also the exact date of judgement.. please let us know..hope ur doing a distinct good work..
Deletejust wait till next friday dude.... everything ll be fine... once d verdict is out.. ll sure let u knw here..
DeleteHello Kafeel , if IOCL has given a joining date for them,then wat about other psu's, with out case hearing how they r giving joining date to those people, and roughly how many victims may be there..?
DeleteHello Kafeel i have searched hearing for on madras high court website for hearing on 3 sep to 9 sep .Actually all the other cases was mentioned but case no 20832 was not mentioned.so i think it may be delayed .can u plz confirm the exact date.
Deletecorrect the case no. it is 29832
DeleteHello Uttam, case no: 29832 , anywayz ths case too not scheduled in d Cause list, ll try to find d exact date , i thnk its postponed to next week or so...
DeleteI didnt get ur point.. will there be any hearing on 1st week of sept about this petition or its just ended..
ReplyDeletethere is no essence in the case filed by Palanimuthu....BEL one of the PSU has recruited in our college based on the reservation. So like this there are many arguments in our favour. Damn sure we will get 100% positive result for our side... ALLLLL iZZZZZ WeLlllllll
ReplyDeletehello is any one behalf of BEL filed a case?? is it sure to file a case from each and every psu's ?? and any one sure about court hearing is on sep 1st week..
ReplyDeleteIts not like individual PSU has to become a respondent. The petitioner has sought replies from the Govt secretary of Defence through Madras High court. You can see the details of the case in madras high court blog. The status of the case is being displayed as pending. Nowhere the date of hearing is displayed..
DeleteI heard IOCL guys have got joining date on sep 3rd is it true??
ReplyDeletehttp://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/jobs/madras-high-court-order-leaves-many-iit-students-hired-but-jobless/articleshow/15625469.cms
ReplyDeleteMr. Kafeel, I want some clarification from you...Can those information regarding judgement be considered as facts? Because it is highly contradicting on the other side....
Deletejust wait till next friday dude.... everything ll be fine... once d verdict is out.. ll sure let u knw here.
Deleteu mean...if the case judgement comes in favour...are these psu's supposed to visit campuses for placements this year in nit's or iit's??????????plzzz reply......
Deleteit depends upon IITs n NITs bcoz PSUs are ready recruit even nw but Institutes are cancelling their placement slots frm ths year
Deletemeans no campus placements by psu's this year....irrespective of the verdict...??????
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Deleteguyzz.. I think the matter is serious. Today I met HR of BEL Corporate office Bangalore unit and they r not sure about the verdict. According to them it may take another 2 months of judicial proceedings. They are also not willing to assure us and they may withdraw the offers as simple as possible when the judgement goes against us... I am not gonna wait for 2 months...
ReplyDeletelets hope for the best.....!!!
Deletebhai ..i think u met Mr. Michael incharge of recruitment .I also had telephonic conversation with him but not lately .His pt. was that they were served written stay frm court so they were stuck in it.he also told me that from company side they are not cancelling recruitment and whatever is the verdict ..has to be followed ..he even clarified in case the court revokes the stay then also he can consider recruiting ..so nt only BEl any other company wud do th same..So i suggest u nt to spread undue commotion ..
DeleteAnybody incharge who receives 40-50 calls per day is bearing with everyone shud be appreciated..so hv patience ..
if u dont want 2 wait fr 2 mnths its ur decision ...maybe ur too intelligent ..but as th plcmnt season is over and no more off campus recruitmnt is cmg we r left wth no option ..
Deletemany people are saying that decision was given based on an argument that every student in india should get equal priority but after cracking iit and aieee how will the student in iit become equal to private engineering colleges student ,if this is the case i think there is no need to conduct iit exam separately .
ReplyDeleteAnd the govt is very irresponsible in this issue ,it is responsibility of govt to give chance to work with in govt organization for the students who are studying in central govt funded colleges
yehi to baat hai..india ke log hi india ke dushman hain.....thay are ready for everything...for fulfilling their private means....never will use their own vision,their own sense of mind....whether what is wrong or write.....dhanya hain aap log....
ReplyDeleteweekly cause-list from 3rd sept to 7th sept is there on madras high court website.
ReplyDeletehttp://causelists.nic.in/chennai_new/weekly/index.html
unfortunately I am unable to find the writ petition no. "29832".
If somebody find it then please post here.
If our case is not there in this list then verdict is not possible in 1st week of September :(.
its from 27th to 31st of aug, no choice for1st week of sept
Deletefrom today the cause-list of new week ie. 3rd sept to 7th sept is being displayed.
DeleteI have searched the entire list.
"29832" is not there.
@ KAFEEL GCEB , I wish you were correct. even I am the victim, please prove yourself correct , and explain why case no. "29832" is not there in the list.
hello dude, from 3 weeks am keep on tracking Madras HC cause lists, THIS WEEKLY CAUSE LIST doesnt include Judgment cases , JUDGEMENT CASES will be updated only one day before n d even aftr 6pm under DAILY CAUSE LIST.... sure our case verdict is not on monday as tat list s already updated, v can xpect till friday ... so ll wait nd see...
Deletefor ur info : Weekly cause list contains only ADMISSION CASES, FINAL HEARING CASES , MISCELLANEOUS PETITIONS ,etc it never contains JUDGMENT CASES dude...also am not xplaining ths much for ur words "PROVE URSELF CORRECT" am just posting watever i knw by facts.... AFTERALL AM ALSO A VICTIM LIKE U..nothing more than that dear..
DeleteI really appreciate your research of this case. I never expected this kind of in-depth study.
DeleteI was very much worried when I didn't find our case in the list, but now I hope for good news :).
we were following you only, I am sure nobody has gone to the depth of case as you have gone.
If my words hurt you then I'm sorry, I really didn't mean that.
hellloooooooo, ths s not d time for sorry,forgiveness,thanks n all, just pray v shud get thru d case and shud join d companies asap....
DeleteHi @KAFEEL GCEB, I'm also a victim..just wanted to say tat u r doing a gr8 job.I'm regularly following all ur updates.Do u have any info regarding t final verdict,when it'll be given out?Do u think it'll be positive for us students?
Deletehttp://causelists.nic.in/chennai_new/omon/sitarr.html
DeleteAs mondays schedule has been updated , we can EXPECT our case between sep 4-7
Our case s dealing by the bench 1.Mr.Eqbal (chief justice) & 2.Mr.T.S.Sivagnanam (Justice) - ths bench starts hearing everyday from 10.30 am at COURT NO.1
@kafeel, can u pls clarify wat do u mean by JUDGEMENT?
DeleteIs it going to b d final decision(i.e. no more hearings)?
s judgement s d final verdict , nothing beyond tat, respondents as well as petitioner ve to obey it
Deletehello,i'm also a victim of this writ petition.Can anyone pls post t correct info regarding the next hearing or when the verdict will be given out?We have to do something regarding this,as it is involving our future.I heard tat if the Madras HC is postponing t case,it is possible to approach t Supreme Court to vacate t stay atleast for 2012 batch. Pls post ur comments and any genuine info regarding this.We can't let some people play with our hard-earned jobs like this.
ReplyDeleteI also heard about a group of affected students who r challenging this writ-petition..any info regrading tat?Whether it'll give any positive results for us?
Deletebhaiyon......1st day has passed....any info. about hearing.???
Deletesaturday and sunday the is closed....
ReplyDeleteAre there any chances of final verdict this week??
ReplyDeleteNai Taareekh to nai mil jayegi na....:-(
Are there any chances of final verdict this week??
ReplyDeleteNai Taareekh to nai mil jayegi na....:-(
hope nai mil jaaayegi yaaar, everythng depends upon the time , if the final hearing takes much time then there r chances of adjourning, so the judgement CAN be postponed to the future date, HOPE THIS NOT HAPPENS
ReplyDeleteI heard the hearings are over and only judgement is pending. are there more hearings in this case ???
DeleteTOMORROWS(Sep 4) CAUSE LIST UPDATED , our case (29832) is missing but COURT NO.8 schedule only updated in that list...so ll hope for the best
Deletehttp://causelists.nic.in/chennai_new/omon/sitarr.html
ReplyDeleteAs mondays schedule has been updated , we can EXPECT our case between sep 4-7
Our case s dealing by the bench 1.Mr.Eqbal (chief justice) & 2.Mr.T.S.Sivagnanam (Justice) - ths bench starts hearing everyday from 10.30 am at COURT NO.1
I heard the hearings are over and only judgement is pending. are there more hearings in this case ???
Deletewhere from u got dat info?
Deletehi ; i got placement in bel-crl ghaziabad and waiting for joining . if anyone gets an info about court case judgement ; please contact me at 9888467836
ReplyDelete@ deepak you can join " Bharat Electronics Limited ( BEL ) 2012 batch" group on facebook for updates too.
ReplyDeleteNo such group is on facebook .Do you mean "Bharat Electronics Limited(Banglore)2011-12 Trainee Batch"
Deletename of facebook group "Bharat Electronics Limited ( BEL ) 2012 batch".
Deleteit is there, just send a request.
no , it is not there ; but there are 2 groups "BEL-CRL 2012 BATCH" and "BEL-CRL 2012 Recruits"
DeleteEven I'm unable to view t group which u have mentioned.I've been selected for BEL-Chennai unit.Pls help..
Deletehttps://www.facebook.com/groups/512141498803323/
DeleteBEL recruits may join this group.
hello "Bharat Electronics Limited ( BEL ) 2012 batch" fb grup admin, kindly edit the grup settings as OPEN GROUP thn only it ll be visible to everyone ...
ReplyDeleteIOCL has given joining on 3rd september for private colleges & 23rd July For gov colleges.
ReplyDeleteSo why is BEL not giving us joining letter
Hi, I spoke with the HR of BEL and asked him the same question. The reply was, IOCL and other PSUs who ever has given the joining dates are doing it at their own risk and may end up in problems later ("contempt of court order"). BEL wants to play it safe and are waiting for the case to be over. He also told once the case is over, they will start the processing immediately. So as of now we don have any option other than waiting .. Lets wait and hope the judgement comes soon and positive for us.
Deletewhich hr did u speak to?
Deletehttps://www.facebook.com/groups/512141498803323/
ReplyDeleteBEL recruits may join the above group
TOMORROWS(Sep 4) CAUSE LIST UPDATED , our case (29832) is missing but COURT NO.8 schedule only updated in that list...so ll hope for the best
ReplyDeletekafeel plz provide me your hone no plz..
Deletewhy my post is removed
ReplyDeletethis is a very good move, when psu goes directly to campus for placement is totally injustice to students of other colleges as they dont get chance to sit for the placement process , also while recruiting at campus they dont follow the reservation rules as given by government of india and they recruit mostly in open cat. , so it is injustice to sc/st/obc and other poor people, also as they recruit directly the final year they are again violating the right of reserved cat. people of age relaxation as they are provided with some age relaxation by our constitution, so it is anti constitution and anti of right to equality to place directly through campus by government organizations, the only way they can give justice to students whether poor or rich, or of backward community is by giving open advertisement on all india basis and following the reservation rules of seats and age relaxation etc.
ReplyDeleteHello rohit just say one thing, u people required reservation quota when u r joining to college, then what is need to have reserveration in jobs, u know that is reason India is lagging behind because of not supporting talent..
Delete@rohit singh :WATEVER U SAID S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT BUT Its all great to talk about equality as ä spectator. But am one of the victim in this case. Its been months since i finished my degree but still dint get my joining date bcoz of d case. Though i got ä couple other offers i denied it all just bcoz of d dream to work n ä psù. Today i pass each day with uncertain future. If it s going 2 be correct 2 cancel my offer den wat ll ù ppl do who were offered jobs last year or before that?
Delete@rohit singh : One more thing, students n iit dont get seats der just like that. Ù ve to clear d very toughest exam to study der. And obviously ù find best of brains der n der s no wrong that psù's opt such institution, as evry org needs BEST OF THE BEST
Delete@Rohith : am also SC & one of the victim too & couple of my frnds too belongs to SC/ST all wer worried abt their jobs, wers ur equality and justice nw rohith singh...
Deletecommon man... first you try to know what actually happening in nits and iits and im sure that recruitment process in nits and iits fair and is based on reservations only recently c dot also followed same rules in our college ,it is mainly becoz of some incidents happened in private engg. colleges, for this remedy would be to have recruitment only in central govt funded institutes and these institutes should be ordered to see that reservations should be followed in recruitment .your talking about sc/st s but the real sufferers because of this decision are the sc st students in nits and iits only..
ReplyDeleteHi, is there an issue that people placed before 21st feb may get joinin gonce the stay order is removed and the people placed after 21st feb will have to wait till the main case gets over? Could this result to cancellation of their appointments too?
ReplyDeleteNo. Everyone will get the appointment.
ReplyDeleteI'm also a victim of this case. I consulted an advocate in my region. I also spoke with Ramesh, who is handling the case. Both of them said me to file a petition immediately. How many of you are with me now?
ReplyDeleteWhat they have said about the case , is it going to favour to us?
DeleteHey.. which company are you from? as HAL and HPCL guys have already filed the petition.
DeleteDon't post all these informations here friend. This may be a clue for Mr.Palanimuthu. He may screw our lives. :(
ReplyDeletewhats new about the case?is there any hearing or judgement happened yet or still pending?????
ReplyDeletebhaiyon....i'm final year NIT student and still waiting for PSU'S should i wait for psu's or anything......???????or is there any chance that they can visit NIT'S OR IIT'S????plz help asap.....
ReplyDeletewhen will be the judgement ? can any one tell the exact date? As the time passing ,we are getting tense.Actually final year is going on & no psus are coming since psus are only recruiters for safety & fire engineering students.
ReplyDeletesee now no one can say tht psu wud cm or nt evn aftr judgement goes in favour of psu's ..since thy may fear th same drama wch is gng on ths yr ..and also court may ask thm to follow sm guidelines wch wud b mr complicatd thn off campus plcmnt ..hence study gate ..or aim private cmpanies..
Deletehow can we study gate ? this branch is not included in gate syllabus & in india at only 2 places this course is offered so it is very -2 difficult to even get a job without psus.can anyone explain what is going on with that case? this stream is very much needed in oil industries.
Deleteu can figure out ...right ..dont be soo embarrased ..may b sm companies take offcampus recruitment...evn sm can go fr oncampus for these specific courses ..as thr r only handful of ppl in ths trade...see but as of now very few companies hv given joining so fr next yr ..problm is more as we wud b gettng jng (tht too not sure) late and so thy wud nt require more candidates in th fortcmg yr..but time can change evrythng..if ur in prefinal yr ..dont worry 2 much ..
Deleteplz do not post sensitive matter here ..plz use facebook ..fr imp discussion ...it may land u in trouble..
ReplyDeleteKAFEEL BHAI....plz do update the matter regularly......as u r the only source left...which is a confidencial and correct.....!!!
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ReplyDeleteDon't post all the information here. Mr.Palanimuthu might see all our discussion and may end up in screwing us. Please keep the discussions out of this forum. Call any of you friends or contact any person who knows about this case well and get the info. Don't chat about this issue in public forums.
ReplyDeletePlease friends. Understand. It's for our good only.
please post contact details(mail id) of our lawyer so that we can convey our feelings in better way and also we can inform him actual recruiting process which is followed in iits and nits ..plz friends these inputs will definetly help him in dealing this case
ReplyDeleteour lawyer?
ReplyDeletei mean advocate who is dealing case in favour of recruitment in iits and nits
ReplyDeleteyeah okay.. i also have many points to say.. please post his mail id when yyou get it...
ReplyDeleteMost probably our case hearing ll be on thursday/friday... lets hope for the best
ReplyDeleteGuys this is a sad day for us. We came to it through our college that CIL(Coal India Limited) is not going to recruit from campuses anymore henceforth.
ReplyDeleteThey'll conduct separate examination for selection for candidates.
from which college have you got this news? have you asked about any other psus? reply asap.
Deletewill cil conduct exam only for freshers separately?
Deleteyes.....NTPC,HPCL,CIL....through gate score card shortlisting+interview process....no more campus recruitments.....
Deletewhat will those students do whose branches are not in gate like safety & fire engineering,ship technology etc?
Deletewhat will those students do whose branches are not in gate like safety & fire engineering,ship technology etc?
Deleteawesome finally we won the case and this
ReplyDeletecampus is banned for psu, right to equality and reservation
wins, now all psu will recruit by gate only and it
would be ensured that all sc/st/obc get seats according to
the reservation percentage fixed for them, not even a single
less than that we would accept as done in campus selections
which case have u won??!
Deleteabe bakbaas band kar @amit...n all he's juss rumouring...WAIT FOR KAFEEL status
Deletewhat do u mean @Amit?
Deletehello guyz, it seems hearing s NEXT WEEK only but am not 100% sure once i get confirmend from some reliable source ll post asap... so relax guys
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